Friday, November 7, 2008

Employment Report is Bad

The Naz pre-market futures were up around +25.00 before the Jobs Report came in worse than expected. Since then those futures have faded back to about +10.00. Traders are also digesting a few earnings misses from QCOM, DIS, and S. However, the employment situation will be on the front-burner this morning with the Unemployment Rate hitting 6.5% vs. 6.3% expected and Non-farm Payrolls hitting -240k vs. -200k expected. The numbers just aren't good. They were mostly expected, but the miss will probably take away any chance for a strong bullish bounce back today.

Here is a chart of the Dow:
(click on image to enlarge)


I speculate that any wiggle this morning is likely to top out in the 8,850 - 8,900 area if we get it. A move above 9,000 and all bets are off for any puts. What looks like a likely scenario is a settling out process in the mid 8,000's during much of the day. If we go through yesterday's low then I expect a move to 8,500, and if we go through 8,500 then I expect a move towards 8,200. However, we will be more prone to headfakes today than we were the past two days. The market is pretty oversold on the Very Short Term and may bounce around intra-day. Wednesday and Thursday were very nice for puts, today you need to keep on eye on things a little tighter. If we get a higher high on the 15m charts (a move above 8,850 - 9000) then it may be awhile before the market rolls over - if it does at all. If we get a higher high on the 60m charts then all bets are off on puts for the day. So either a move above 9,000 or a higher high on the 60m charts and I'm not looking at puts.

The market looks like it's headed for a small gap up and a bullish wiggle in the morning. I speculate that the Bears will fade that move early on, which may be a put opportunity. But keep an eye on the 8,650 area and how traders are treating it. If the market weakens up and fades away through that area then it's likely headed towards 8,500 and the downswing continues for a little while longer. I'm looking for an immediate move towards 8,850 - 8,900 right out of the gate and then a fade and testing process between 8,850 and 8,650 before the market decides what to do next.

As always, we shall see.....

7:31 am MT: I just watched the open and we did indeed get the immediate move towards 8,850 right out of the gate.

7:40 am MT: Here is our first fade after the test of 8,850 just as I speculated. So it's game on for the market.....This is the early day process of battling between 8,650 - 8,850 that I was writing about. Watch to see which way the market goes with these battle points. If the market pops through 8,850 - 8,900 then it may be bullish intra-day for a few hours. But for now, we are in the battle zone.

I still think we will see the market in a settling out process, so I am watching for a potential drop through the 8,650, perhaps later today, followed by more attempts from the Bulls to test the intermediate term bottom and push the market back up.

12:15 pm MT: We are at a key tipping point intra-day. Either the Dow punches through the low 8,900 area and makes a run to 9,000 and the likelihood of finishing in the red on the day is miniscule, or it rolls over and takes another shot at 8,650.

Whatever happens next, the early and mid-day was just as I speculated, a settling down process. The Battle Zone held all through the morning and the trading range has continued to tighten. If we have a strong move into the close (up or down), it will probably happen in the last 90 minutes. The probabilities favor the move to the downside by about 60/40, but with this being a range contraction day and the weekend coming up, I won't be surprised if the market moves are muted compared to the last couple of days. The price activity getting tighter all morning was exactly why I said that puts would be tougher earlier in the day. We'll see how the day closes out.....

24 comments:

  1. Hi everyone,
    Wanted to say thanks to Dwight for all of the extra effort and to all of you guys who are working hard in this market and seem to have a great support group. I've had to take some jobs to keep going so small positions with limited time has been the name of the game. Fortunately I am done today so I get to listen to VC next week and am looking forward to getting back in full time.
    Good luck to everyone!!
    Garrett

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  2. Thanks Dwight, I think I speak for everyone when I say I appreciate all the help you give us!

    Picked up some DIA puts right out of the gate and waiting for DD to break support then I'm in that too.

    Joe

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  3. Good for you Garrett.

    Sold out my SPY Dec 90 call as soon as I saw weakness was not going to push the SPY past 91 ish plus my entry yesterday was not advantageous so took a 45cent loss rather than wait till it breaks support etc.
    Hope all of you have a great trading day!
    Francis

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  4. Well, itcy trigger fingers pulled too early.
    Maybe that old adage about not trading the first 30 mins does hold true.
    Hope everyone else is okay.
    Francis

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  5. Francis,

    I'm with you, don't worry about it. Got into my put way to early! I KNEW that the market was due for some sort of bounce, and yet I got in anyways. My mistake.. But, I'm with Dwight. I see the market hitting around 8900 and then heading back down. So, I'm fine with my position so far and may add some more to it soon.

    Joe

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  6. Thanks JOe for the comfort but it's my own emotional weakness.
    Should have had my written stop in front of me so that I didn't get spooked out unnecessarily.
    Once again it's a reminder to self to trade my rules consistently and not change my mind whilst watching the 2 min charts ticking away.
    Just thought I'd share my mistakes so others won't make 'em.
    Taking a deep breath now to review my rules and write down my set ups and wait for the correct time to buy and exit without getting emotional.
    Francis

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  7. Well, got out of my SPY call as the indices were rolling over with a $15 loss. Ah, well... I could have made $15 at the most. When the SPY quit making a higher high I evacuated; still have that lingering smoky stench from losses the week before. I'd been watching gaps and thought there might be..one... more. This time t'was not to be. Glad to share the minimal loss with you, Francis

    Joe, it's put city today but no holding over the weekend!?!

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  8. Just entered some DD puts. Let's see how things work out..

    Joe

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  9. Dwight, you da man! Bought puts on dia at 89.00 and sold my 1st contract at 88.00 moved stop to 88.75. Cant wait to hear from you on a regular basis.

    Thank you!

    p.s. are we going to bailout the automakers as well! pretty crazy!

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  10. Hey guys and galls, and Dwight if you read this,

    Obama is supposed to speak before the market closes. Any guess what effect that will have on the market?

    I guess it depends on what the content is...

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  11. Hi All
    Any ideas of what to look for to end the downturn with this conference coming up? Do we wait to break 9000 on the DOW?

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  12. Hi Claudia and Laurie! Hope you're doing good Joe as well.

    Having sat back and planned properly, I'm looking for:
    SPY Call
    Enty: $95.70 ( 25cents above the high of the low candle being yesterday's candle so far.)
    Short term target: $110
    Next target: $115
    Stop:$90.50
    pretty much 2:1 Risk Reward ratio.

    So in answer to your comment, I'm looking for the SPX to breach 950 before I do anything.

    Hope this helps or at least provokes thought!
    Francis

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  13. Dwight, unbelievable analysis b4 it even happens as usual. Very very cool how you can see these things so precisely b4 they happen!

    Iguess it doesnt get much tighter than this.

    Thank you again for you do for us!

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  14. Wow! As soon as Obama started speaking the futures dropped like a rock! Dwight is right on again about a dip.
    Francis

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  15. No sooner the Obama address is over,SPX jumps back up?! Boy what a nervous market, what was Big Money worried about... a surprise tax announcement?!!!!
    Francis

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  16. Not a good day..

    That's all I can say.

    How'd everyone else do?

    Joe

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  17. Ouch, Joe! I know what you mean.

    I wasn't going to comment, but I got one SPY put on the negative GM earnings news. I should have waited for the confirmation (again). I'm still holding the position and hoping for bad retail $$ next week!

    Lessons learned daily; sometimes they're repeats.

    Trusting all the rest of you fared better.

    Gary, did Dwight get your email? I've got a renewal question.

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  18. Laurie,

    He hasn't checked his email lately so I emailed him at IT reminding him to check his other account.

    Joe,

    I'm long on AAPL, APOL, USO. Dwight showed a lot of inverse H/S that he said may play out. The market is still oversold. I lost my first Obama trade when I got caught trying to swing a few DIA calls @ 2:30 EST on the break out of the triangle...I lost. Of course Dwight was buying puts at the same time and he lost a few bucks too. At least I'm spreading the wealth on Wall Street. WILD!

    Gang,

    If anyone was on VC last night,you may have heard when I chatted in that I had Googled Dwight's name and he returned in the search results. BTW he's #10. There are some new people (George) in VC, so I think we should all chip in and help out our fellow traders.

    Finally, it's Dwight's B-day on Weds. So don't forget to wish him a happy B-day!

    Gary

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  19. Just wanted to thank eveyone for their contributions to this blog. I love to learn from all of you and am happy to share my trading lessons with you, win or lose, so that hopefully someone can benefit from my experiences.

    Here's wishing you all Best,Steady and Consistent, Unemotionally and strategically planned Big Profits and teensy losses!!!!

    Cheers.

    Francis

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  20. Laurie,

    Dwight responded to my email today. As things may be nearing the end with his wife's mother, he must dedicate himself to the family right now. I think we're fortunate that he takes the time out to post when he can, as we all benefit from his willingness to share.It shows that he has a big heart and a real passion for what he does.
    It's great that we all express our concerns and gratitude to Dwight here and on VC. I hope he has the time to respond to you and anyone else that emailed him. I'm sure one could understand if he hasn't. I'm looking forward to being here along time with all of you as the market improves and Dwight's coaching brings prosperity to us all.

    Thanks,

    Gary

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  21. Laurie,
    Dwight also mentioned that as the indexes start getting tighter, he may play less index ETFs (DIA, SPY) and start getting back into individual stocks within sectors, in which case he will post a watchlist again when he has time.

    Everyone, you are right about Dwight's generosity. He has amazingly big shoulders to be able to carry everything that is going on with family and still be loyal to helping all of us out on VC and on his blog. What we can do for him in the meantime is to continue to send thoughts and prayers to his family and spread the word about him and this blog to our fellow trading friends.

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  22. Christina,
    I appreciate you taking the time to post. That's helpful nformation. Enjoy the remainder of your weekend, and we'll see how next week develops. Wishing everyone good trading!

    I'm keeping Dwight and his family in my prayers.

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  23. Laurie,

    I didn't make notes of any tickers that were in an inverse H/S pattern. I'll be doing some searching Sunday I'll let you know if I come up with anything. Check out Finviz.com and check out their pattern searches. Kind of a little boost to get you going in the right direction with sectors. Dwight said the market may consolidate a few days because there's no big earnings or reports due out. Of course we may get a bump up off the China stimulus package. Who knows?

    Gary

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  24. hi everyone!

    I was just reading the comments and it is so sad that Dwight's family is going through such a difficult time. It truly reminds us that every day is a precious gift.
    I'm checking in to say Hi to everyone. It's been so long. I've been in the stock interactive class so having that 2 times a week, halloween was busy with my son and his parties, THE ELECTION, and of course my trading...i've been so swamped.
    My acct is up but not as good as it could be you know letting a losing trade run even though "A PERSON" hmmm, who would that be? has warned us not to do that!! LOL -
    I'm getting more confident manuvering around in these crazy conditions we are fortunate to have "SOMEONE" we can count on!LOL
    Hope you all had a wonderful weekend,
    Denise
    p.s. I wonder what's in store for us this week? It continues to get more and more interesting!!

    p.s.s. I need to figure how to spot candlestick patterns better on the 5 day 5 min chart and/or 2 day chart etc. I guess it will come with time.

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