I have noticed two things: one is that the opens and closes this week have all stayed within Friday's open and close, and the second is that the shorts are pretty twitchy lately. So we may see some more back and forth puck slapping intra-day between the tense Bulls leaking out stock and the twitchy Bears covering shorts.
Here is a chart of the Dow:
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The market will probably test yesterday's lows right out of the gate. The Dow may reach in to the 8,500 area in the first few hours as the Bulls disgorge themselves of stock a bit. But I will be watching for another twitchy short-covering moment sometime later in the day. So be somewhat nimble on the trades, we still haven't cleared any hurdles that are leading to clean signals and simple price action. I have puts on the DIA and SPY from yesterday that I will start scaling out of on the initial drop out of the gate. But I will look to play one more good leg down this morning with more puts if it sets up right. I will run with the puts as long as I don't see one of those sharp short-covering jumps intra-day. If the jump doesn't go too far, it may be another put buying opportunity. Be aware that the 8,200 - 8,500 area has been the reversal zone on the Dow for about a month, so once again, don't get too fancy if we get deep into that zone, be ready to lock down profits and walk.
Warning! Warning!
ReplyDeleteMr. Paulson speaks at 10:30 EST with TARP update.
Good trading everyone!
Morning Laurie! Missed you and all the other ladies yesterday!
ReplyDeleteMaybe Paulson will be the catalyst to take the Dow down to 8200!!
Good trading all!
Francis
Wish I was in today! Looks like we could head down to 8300 - 8150 now. I hope you guys are in puts!
ReplyDeleteJoe
Afternoon!
ReplyDeleteWhat an update with Hank!
Denise-did you take the interactive stock class that Dwight taught? If so, how can we find out what else he is teaching?
We gotta have the kool-aid!!
I am with Joe-hope ya'll are in puts! I bet Francis is.
Laurie-how was the stew? It's 70 degrees in N. Louisiana. I can't wait for stew weather.
Thanks Dwight!
Question to fellow traders:
What is the difference between paper trading and live trading? Is it a smooth transition or is there some heads up to look for?
I am hoping to start live in about a month. Still writing in a journal and catching my lumps and bumps!
Thanks
Margo
Margo,
ReplyDeleteEMOTIONS!!!
Margo the real difference is the fills on the spreads. Other than that your emotions go a little crazy with real $$$!
ReplyDeleteGood luck.
Morning Margo and all fellow Dwightites!
ReplyDeleteNo, wasn't feeling well this am so not being able to watch screens, did not get into puts.
Unless I'm mistaken, although markets are down, the volume doesn't seem to be strong?
I'm still holding my AMGN calls which are right on my S2 support levels on much lower than average volume, so on that basis, I shall wait and see since it does not look like a panic sell out.
good trading all.
Francis
Greetings Francis, Margo and everyone,
ReplyDeleteBoy, I wish I'd held my SPY put overnight. I heard on VC that someone else sold, too. I'd rather not be in the misery loves company group. Just watching today so far. BNI looks pretty good to me for a call, but spreads have been too wide.
Margo,
The stew was great and kept the house warm, too! We're in the Ozarks in AR, so it gets a little cooler like southern MO. Lived in Dallas a long time, so I remember hot Novembers. So. California Christmases were even hotter!
I agree with Gary - palpitations when you first go live...
For people who don't have enough risk I heard of some 3X ETF's. BGU ultra and BGZ ultra short. Can't imagine!
Margo,
ReplyDeleteEmotions are the big change. Stick to your rules and set stops and price targets and have specific rules set for when you reach those areas to sell. If you keep your emotions out as much as possible, you'll be fine. It's gonna be rough the first couple of trades, but after that you'll get used to it. And the fills are harder..
Francis,
I noticed the volume too. Take a look at the 60's on the Dow and the volume has been falling ever since we started dropping on 5th. Plus were at support. So, if we can start making some higher highs on the 15's and 30's, I'd say it's getting to be call time. But who knows.
Joe
Francis,
ReplyDeleteHope you get to feeling better.
Joe,
You're right about the volume. Everybody's getting out of the water.
Thank you Laurie, appreciate your concern.
ReplyDeleteLooks like SPY wants 85 area before it's done going down?
Francis
Thanks! Got into a put on the DIA this am and just got out for a nice profit. Hope everyone did well today. It's like a spoon full of sugar to make the medicine go down on my IRA. As soon as I get more experience, I will be handling that money too! Anyone else planning on that? That is what gets me really excited about what we are learning. Financial security, financial freedom no matter what is going on in the market.
ReplyDeleteThanks Dwight!
Good for you Rachel!
ReplyDeleteYou must have a good size account to day trade; all the best to you!
Francis
Hi Everyone,
ReplyDeleteI just can't believe what the charts are looking like. OMG, it's scary.
Margo, the interactive class isn't with Dwight it's with Investools but with another instructor. It would be great if Dwight taught some classes on this website!! We all want MORE Dwight.
Also, I was reading the comments and scrolling down and saw Gary's answer to Margo's question on the difference btwn Paper money and Live Trading - Gary said EMOTIONS... I laughed for a second but it's SO true.
I bought my very first call option 1 year ago in November 2007. Guess what I bought? I bought ONE (thank goodness!!) one strike OTM call on AAPL. That stock moves like a rocket, needless to say I had a deer in the headlight look about 15 minutes in to the trade when it started losing money - I was actually expecting a home run hitter - after not really planning it out. What a hoot.
I'm happy to say I've come so far in 1 year but it sure takes alot of work to make progress.
Hope you all had a profittable day. Believe it or not I bought a AAPL Put today one yr later and I made a small profit and decided not to hold over night.
Bye, Denise
Hey Guys,
ReplyDeleteI just wanted to add that you can make 3 day trades on ThinkorSwim within a 5 day rotating basis with an account under 25K. So, I have been largely in bear calls and bull puts, placing the occasional daytrade. I have really worked hard for a year and a half to get my account to where it is, but it's not 25K. Been with Investools coaching since July, studied on my own for a year before that. I have seen my account shrink, and shrink, thought about getting out, but FINALLY reached a point where things are starting to make sense. Scared into doing all the things they tell you to do: follow your rules, check with the coaches on trades, keep a journal, READ READ READ, turn off the tv, STOPS, STOPS, STOPS. I guess starting, I thought this would be a lot easier. Boy, was I wrong. It is very rewarding to see your account grow after such a long struggle. You know, we, who are having a really hard time in this market, are really LEARNING how to trade effectively. Just have to imbrace the mountains of info. that come our way each day. Happy trading all!
Rachel